As D. H. Lawrence once said that pornography does dirt to sex, I would say that predestination does dirt to God.
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Ouch! That is to the point...but is an issue that I have dealt with for years.
Having grown up Pentecostal I was around those that were far too Arminian. Salvation was something that could be lost at the drop of a hat. I turned to Calvinism/Augustianism as a refuge - to have a little bit of security. The problem came, especially with minstry efforts, with the concept of predestination. To think that GOd "marked out before hand" who would be saved and who wouldn't just didn't seem to congeal with the the God that I had encountered in scripture and in my own life.
There is comfort to think that God chose some to go to Heaven but then again He also chose some to go to Hell and there isn't a damn thing that you can do about it. - No comfort in that - no way.
I began to take the swing back to a a more Calvinist/Arminist position.
Flush the "P" down the drain. I do not think that it is consistent theologically nor logically.
Yep, me too. I think most protestant believers in America today are "mutts" theologically, and there's something to be said for that. The pure breeds, well ya gotta watch 'em. Most of 'em seem a little rabid to me.
The "P" in TULIP actually refers to 'Perseverance of the Saints', not Predestination. I think the doctrine of predestination is probably in the realm of TULIP's "U" (Unconditional Election).
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Ouch! That is to the point...but is an issue that I have dealt with for years.
Having grown up Pentecostal I was around those that were far too Arminian. Salvation was something that could be lost at the drop of a hat. I turned to Calvinism/Augustianism as a refuge - to have a little bit of security. The problem came, especially with minstry efforts, with the concept of predestination. To think that GOd "marked out before hand" who would be saved and who wouldn't just didn't seem to congeal with the the God that I had encountered in scripture and in my own life.
There is comfort to think that God chose some to go to Heaven but then again He also chose some to go to Hell and there isn't a damn thing that you can do about it. - No comfort in that - no way.
I began to take the swing back to a a more Calvinist/Arminist position.
Flush the "P" down the drain. I do not think that it is consistent theologically nor logically.
Yep, me too. I think most protestant believers in America today are "mutts" theologically, and there's something to be said for that. The pure breeds, well ya gotta watch 'em. Most of 'em seem a little rabid to me.
The "P" in TULIP actually refers to 'Perseverance of the Saints', not Predestination. I think the doctrine of predestination is probably in the realm of TULIP's "U" (Unconditional Election).
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